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BaneIW · Jan 21, 2006, 03:49 AM // 03:49

Okay this is a IW (Illusionary Weaponry) combo with a bit of a twist, i have found it so extremely effective against anyone with the IW combo evening the odds with tankers and the other combo (A fragillity + conditions combo)

This is my setup:
Flurry
Illusionary Weaponry
Bonetti's Defense
Fragillity
Sever Artery
Gash
Hamstring
Healing Signet-(ive found not necesarilly needed if there is a good monk or two around.)

This is such a good setup i had to share it with the world

and if im missing out on anything please tell me thanks guys

Rhuobhe · Jan 21, 2006, 08:29 AM // 08:29

Just FYI - you won't gain adrenaline with IW on, and you cannot sever/gash while enchanted with it either.

Same goes for hamstring

Avarre · Jan 21, 2006, 11:32 AM // 11:32

I think the way to use it would be to wand a few times, then sever/gash/hamstring onto fragility, THEN cast IW and finish them off.. but seems somewhat clumsy to use, and conditions won't make a dent versus a decent healer. However, I can't see the point of bonetti's... unless you intend to tank warriors while wanding them in the 4 seconds after IW drops.

Grammar · Jan 21, 2006, 11:53 AM // 11:53

What do you plan to do about enchantment stripping?

IW has a 40 second recast. It get's stripped, and you're boned.

Avarre · Jan 21, 2006, 02:03 PM // 14:03

That argument completely demolishes any IW build, it's best to just run it in CA and hope. Or bring SV as cover enchant, but plz rend enchantments ftw!

Drop bonetti's for SV, if you're insistant on using adrenal skills for IW build

BaneIW · Jan 21, 2006, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Okay say if i were to replace "For Great Justice" with Bonettis defense im aware that IW wont gain me adrenaline. just one qwestion, wats SV?

Oh yea, bonettis defence is for if im getting aten up by a warrior i can use bonettis + distortion over and over and over again till IW recharges

Avarre · Jan 21, 2006, 06:24 PM // 18:24

SV is Sympathetic Visage, which has the effect of :

For X seconds, whenever target ally is struck by a melee attack all adjacent foes lose all adrenaline and 3 energy.

It is a great enchant against warriors, and also a good cover enchant (use it after IW, and it gets removed first) for IW.

Distortion is a stance, using it cancels bonetti's defence. In fact, using ANY skill cancels bonetti's defence.

BaneIW · Jan 21, 2006, 06:27 PM // 18:27

use distortion then bonettis defence so your gaining roughly 2 or 3 mana each hit

anyways i dont know what im talking about so can somebody give me a nice build that has IW?

Murder In China · Feb 04, 2006, 06:48 AM // 06:48

So basically you hit them normally until you get adrenaline for sever artery then hit them with hamstring then use IW?

Vermilion Okeanos · Feb 04, 2006, 07:07 AM // 07:07

One of the ancient build I made (before fragility nerf), I would use sword condition skills with 0 attribute and high illusion magic for fragility. It was pretty funny, it killed quite alot of people, just not fast enough.

SnipiousMax · Feb 04, 2006, 07:15 AM // 07:15

I really wish they would make IW better. As it is, its a very fragile build.

d3kst3r · Feb 04, 2006, 07:38 AM // 07:38

lol you can't stack Bonetti's with Distortion since they're both stances. You can't have 2 stances on at once. And Sever Artery and Gash dont work with IW since IW doesn't contact the enemy foe.

There's so many problems with that build I'll just say that you shouldn't use it. Tho the Fragility + Sever Artery + Gash does look alright, might make a nice combo.

SnipiousMax · Feb 04, 2006, 09:31 PM // 21:31

I can't see you doing much damage with Frag + Sever + Gash. Seems like there are easier ways of doing more damage. Even a W/Me with Frag would be outshined by other builds.

I also noticed that you mispelled Resurection Signet.

d3kst3r · Feb 05, 2006, 05:09 AM // 05:09

Don't really know how effective Frag + Sever + Gash can be unless you test it. And add Hamstring perhaps that might stack for some good damage or perhaps Frag doesn't last long enough to allow it. Who knows, it's worth a try.

Avarre · Feb 05, 2006, 05:29 AM // 05:29

Mend ailment > frag build in all forms. The damage really isn't much to notice.

Just saying.

Ju_Smurph · Feb 05, 2006, 12:51 PM // 12:51

IW... could be so good, but their are so many limitations

Avarre · Feb 05, 2006, 02:21 PM // 14:21

Like signet of humility. IW is the one build that is completely destroyed by one other skill.

If anything, IW should have a passive speed attack boost, since you're technically not having to swing the weapon for effect. And can't we have 100 blades back as non-elite for IW?

It's not like IW is 'super uber awesome' as it is (its mocked like mending! Like MENDING!)

Actually, a team of 8 IW mesmers all hitting for 256 damage per second combined on a target would be pretty fearsome

animeba · Feb 07, 2006, 12:35 AM // 00:35

IW really shines in any area that doesn't have enchant removal. With flurry, it's 42dmg/sec. An excellent damage dealer. Just don't take this one trick pony into GvG or HA. People would just strip/inspire/shatter enchant & laugh at you.

Ju_Smurph · Feb 07, 2006, 06:12 AM // 06:12

I hope there is an additional skill friendly to IW coming in chapter 2... *Nudge nudge* I remember capping that skill and going omfg thats awesome, on paper it is awesome, hover it just doesnt work dammit!

SnipiousMax · Feb 07, 2006, 06:13 AM // 06:13

Almost seems IW should have a shorter duration...and be immune to strip...like a stance.